Saturday, May 26, 2007


This article by Patrick Poole is 10 days old, but important and well worth reading. The Muslim American Society is closely tied to the Islamic Society of Boston. Cover-up and Deny. Poole notes an exchange between MAS's Mahdi Bray and counter-terrorism expert Daveed Gartenstein-Ross (who's book I highly recommend, btw) in which Bray is caught in a lie:

...In support of his argument, Gartenstein-Ross observed that even post-9/11, MAS had expressed support for terrorist activities in its magazine, The American Muslim:
Indeed, The American Muslim provides a snapshot of where MAS really stands on terrorism. The March 2002 issue includes a fatwa endorsing suicide bombings against Israelis, which states that "martyr operations are not suicide and should not be deemed as unjustifiable means of endangering one's life." The fatwa goes on to say that in suicide bombings, "the Muslim sacrifices his own life for the sake of performing a religious duty, which is jihad against the enemy."

But in his published defense of his organization, Mahdi Bray categorically denied that such a fatwa endorsing suicide attacks in Israel even existed:

Additionally, Mr. Ross asserts that a fatwa (religious opinion) in our March 2002 American Muslim magazine supports suicide bombing. There is absolutely no such fatwa in the March 2002 edition of the American Muslim magazine.

Just weeks after this exchange, the American Muslim website went dark, or more appropriately, white. A common practice for those who want to eliminate items from the web cache of search engines, such as Google, is to remove the page and replace it with a blank white screen to clear the information out of web cache. This is what happened to the American Muslim magazine website.

But one area that website owners cannot control is the various Internet archive sites that regularly catalogue the contents of the World Wide Web. It is here that the evidence supporting Mr. Gartenstein-Ross’ claims about the missing MAS martyrdom fatwa resides. In fact, the Internet Archive houses the past issues of American Muslim, and preserves intact a copy of the missing fatwa that Mahdi Bray vigorously denied existed...

Shades here of Emerson vs. MPAC.

Not only does the fatwa justifying suicide terror exist, but it's right next to a fatwa by the Muslim Brotherhood's own Sheik Yussef al-Qaradawi (Qaradhawi)...the radical anti-American sheik the Islamic Society of Boston has gone to much trouble to deny any connection to.

The fatwa (Sheikh Faysal Mawlawi: "Martyr operations are not suicide and should not be deemed as unjustifiable means of endangering one’s life.") concerns blowing yourself up in some circumstances, particularly in this case by "Palestinians." As I discussed in my post on that recent and disturbing Pew poll (What are the percentages?) regarding American Muslim attitudes toward this sort of thing, you'd have to be utterly delusional to imagine you can justify this kind of thing in one circumstance and not imagine the idea will spread once the concept is out of the bag.

If there is a problem among American Muslims, you can look to groups like the Muslim American Society as part of the problem, not part of the solution.

Speaking about part of the solution, here's Zuhdi Jasser at Hot Air.

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This dispute seems to be missing the point, on both sides. What's being debated there (or not being debated, if you believe Bray) is whether the suicide in "suicide bombing" is acceptable. There's not the slightest doubt on MAS' part as to whether blowing up a bus full of civilians is appropriate if the bomber survives.

#1 JSinger at: May 27, 2007 9:31 AM

It is even more important to note that the MAS, or the MSA (Muslim Student Association)or all the rest of the Muslims groups (including the Muslim PAC's)are all connected too terrorist groups in some form that might not be evident to the casual viewer but away from the public and non-Muslims it is important to note that the whole intention of these Muslim groups is to replace our legal system with Sharia Law.

Since the time of Muhammad, Muslims have been on a Jihad against every relgion in the world; especially against Jews and Christians. While America has many moderate Muslims, it is important to note that "Islam" is a terrorist religion and no matter how hard we try, negotiating with these people or trying to integrate them into our society would be as likely as asking Hitler to marry a Jew. Least we not forget it was Islam that aligned itself with the Nazi's during WWII.

Is anyone surprised that the latest PEW research notes that over 1 out of 4 American Muslims thinks suicide is acceptable. Even these figures should be suspect since these questions were done in a public forum not a private forum and clearly Muslims are taught as young as 3 that lying is permitted when negotiating or speaking with any non-Muslim. In every Muslim organization and Mosque around the world, Muslims are taught that all religions (all non-Muslims) are inferior to Islam. Why should any Muslim organization or Muslim PAC be any different?

#2 bapakgila at: May 28, 2007 12:13 PM

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