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Tuesday, November 25, 2008

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In the old days of tribal warfare, when populations were small, and victors in war couldn't afford to be generous because a single loss could spell the end of your society forever, things were brutal. It wasn't at all unusual for the victors to put everyone to the sword, completely decimating an enemy population so that they couldn't create more soldiers and their threat would eliminated forever.

Welcome to the tribal past...with an Islamist expert. From London, of course:

MEMRI TV: British Islamist Kamal Al-Hilbawi and Liberal Nabil Yassin Debate Whether Israeli Children Constitute Legitimate Military Targets

Following are excerpts from a TV debate featuring Dr. Kamal Al-Hilbawi, introduced on the program as director of the London Center for the Study of Terrorism, and political analyst Dr. Nabil Yassin. Dr. Hilbawi is also former spokesman of the international Muslim Brotherhood in the West.(1) The debate aired on BBC Arabic TV on October 17, 2008

Al-Hilbawi: "I Believe That Every Israeli Civilian is a Future Soldier... Even If He Is a Child"

Dr. Kamal Al-Hilbawi: "I condemn the targeting of any civilian, but incidentally, I believe that every Israeli civilian is a future soldier."

Interviewer: "He is what?"

Dr. Kamal Al-Hilbawi: "A future soldier."

Interviewer: "Even if he is two years old?"

Dr. Kamal Al-Hilbawi: "Even if he is a child. A child born in Israel is raised on the belief that [the Arabs] are like contemptible sheep, and that this is a land without a people, and they are a people without a land. They have very strange concepts. In elementary school, they pose the following math problem: 'In your village, there are 100 Arabs. If you killed 40, how many Arabs would be left for you to kill?' This is taught in the Israeli curriculum. What would you say about that? Should a child studying this be considered a civilian? He is a future soldier."...

Dr. Nabil Yassin: "What Kamal said is very dangerous. He is familiar with the case of the Kharijites. He takes us back to the Azariqa, the Kharijites who were most lethal to Muslims. They used to cut open the bellies of pregnant women, because they believed that the child would become an enemy of the Kharijites."[...]

...Dr. Kamal Al-Hilbawi: "Allow me. I absolutely do not condone the killing of civilians. But those responsible for the killing of these civilians are sometimes their own relatives and their own country...

"In my view, Sheikh Al-Qaradhawi is one of the people responsible for the development of religious violence, I'm sad to say."

Interviewer: "Dr. Nabil, we don't want to..."

Dr. Nabil Yassin: "Let's be clear on that... Religious scholars issued fatwas..."

Interviewer: "We are not here to pass judgment on Sheikh Al-Qaradhawi or anyone else."...

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6 Comments

That's disgusting. And the schoolbook examples, by the way, are nonsense. I spent several years in the Israeli public school system; their textbooks say nothing of the sort.

I have heard, however, of equally disturbing problems in Palestinian textbooks.

A case of psychological projection, perhaps?

Let me add: technically, al-Hilbawi is correct: Israeli children are, for the most part, future soldiers, since Israel has universal conscription.

On the other hand, that does not make children military targets. A responsible military targets fighting forces, along with resources needed for the continuation of the fighting. If the Palestinians truly believe that Israeli children are legitimate military targets, then they are admitting that their goal is genocide.

Let me also add that, while Israeli children are expected to serve in the armed forces some day, Israel doesn't do this:

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/pictures/PalestinianChildAbuse/

respectfully,
Daniel in Brookline

We could use the same logic and apply it to Palestinian children. But something tells me that we'll take a more humane stance, and rightly so.

It's an outright lie, and defamation and the BBC which gives a platform for such vileness should be made accountable. Someone should sue them for slandering Israeli schools.

Daniel in Brookline,

Israeli schools do not teach
In elementary school, they pose the following math problem: 'In your village, there are 100 Arabs. If you killed 40, how many Arabs would be left for you to kill?' This is taught in the Israeli curriculum.

That is pure projection because that is what the Egyptians, Jordanians and Syrians were teaching their children.
Such defamatory lies are commonplace in the world of the BBC and millions swallow them.

If Arabs think of children as future soldiers,
could that indicate a mental illnes?
Nobody in Israel thinks this way, or maybe the
Israeli's are more humane.
The Germans used this same logic to murder Jewish
children in 1938-1945

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