MUSLIM STUDENTS ASSOCIATION:

IKHWAN >> TALIBAAN >> ALQAEDA ---- MSA (USA)..get it?

Read the following two books:

Dore Gold: TWO FACES OF ISLAM: ISBN: 9780385506922.

Schwartz Stephen: HATRED'S KINGDOM: ISBN 0895260611.

(Uncle Jimbo was unimpressed with Horowitz himself).

Horowitz was an interesting person 20 years ago. At this point, he's making a career out of "controversy", and is essentially a professional troll.

And the "I used to be an important leftist in 1966!" thing that's his main claim to fame gets less relevant every year as the people he has inside dirt on retire or die. Who cares that he used to know Huey Newton or Bernadine Dohrn?

Yeah, other than his exceptionally popular web site, his legislative initiative, lobbying, his books, his speaking engagements, his campus efforts, and this multi-campus effort. I've heard a lot of people talk about taking action, but he's actually managed to get something organized, whether you think it's the way to go or not.

That's one heck of a "troll."

As a part of "Islamofascism Awareness Week", Nonie Darwish spoke at U.C. Berkeley on October 22. As usual, Islamofascists and their Dhimmi supporters have shown their unwavering resolve to crush any type of dissent. One the members of the "Students for Justice in Palestine" claimed that the purpose of the "Islamofascism Awareness Week" is to reinvigorate anti-Muslim and anti-Arab campaign. Given the fact that the speaker, Nonie Darwish, is both Muslim and Arab it truly shows the depth of brainwashing on campus.

Berkeley, the recipient of The Dhimmi Award.

Delighted to see that Muslims Against Sharia is unaware that Ms. Darwish is no longer Muslim. I suppose to you the only good Muslim is one that is no longer a Muslim or a dead one.

As a former MSA leader I can tell you all about our struggle to be treated as equals to the Catholic, Jewish, Protestant students etc. MSA's are not an organized cabal. There is very little coordination from MSA national down to the local chapters. In fact many chapters are not even that. They just happen to use the name MSA to register the organization with the school because that is what they know other students have called similar organizations. If we're going to continue down this line of Al Qaeda -> MSA we might as well say that the Elders of Zion is a credible text.

People like Horrowitz and Darwish have truly made a career out of 'trolling.' Nobody with an open mind can take them seriously. Precisely because they are so closed minded as to participate in events such as Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week. Most MSA's organize a week of events called Islam Awareness Week. If you want any 'moderate' Muslims to join you then you shouldn't begin by insulting their intelligence. Clearly, Horrowitz, Darwish, et al are not interested in dialogue or change. All they want is to play to the fears of the average American so that they may derive some sense of purpose and worth.

As Americans we need to talk. There needs to be a national dialogue. However, before we talk we cannot view the other as an animal. I want to be treated as a complete person, an American, and someone with dignity. I don't believe that violence is a useful political tool. Don't try to convince that it is.

If even half of what Darwish has written is true, I am appalled that it has gone on in the world this long. If it is not true, or only partially so, and she is using it as a way to sow more disunity in our world, may God forgive and silence her. We don't need any more agents of hate.

Until now I have not heard of Nonie Darwish and the allegations against MSA's.
However, I have been a President of my school's MSA for 2 years. We have organized an Islamic Awareness Week, sporting events, Hijabi Monologues, a fashion show and more. We have cosponsored with the Jewish Students Association and hilel, the Student Veterans Association, the African Students and more.
MSA's have very little to no contact with the parent branch. We are not required to check in, send dues, etc. Some groups are hardly funded (a friend of mine used to have bake sales at law school to have movie nights) and some groups are active enough to receive student funds for activities.
I am not sure if checking up on Ms.Darwish is worth my time... I believe as Muslims we only have so much to do either speaking out against problems in Islam, or against Islam's detractors. Only God (or fate... or whatever you believe in) can change minds... If people have decided MSA's are bad, or in the case of Ayaan Hursi Ali, they decide Islam is inherently bad, I can change nothing. I can also hardly blame them. People have experiences which alter their view of events, people, etc. '
Do I agree? No... Do I believe people put way too much on independent branches of the MSA.. obviously i do.

thanks,
aisha

Aisha says "Only God (or fate... or whatever you believe in) can change minds... "

and that "People have experiences which alter their view of events, people, etc."

It is a pretty pessimistic view of humankind's capability to grow and change for the better. Western history contradicts this fatalistic pessimism. Change and reform are possible. It took place within Christianity and Judaism; there is no reason why it cannot happen within Islam. However, it is probably easier and more comforting to believe that Islam is only perceived as problematic because this is God's wish. It is a kind of abrogation of responsibility, outsourcing one's duty --to oneself and society at large-- to God's mysterious will. Rather than listen more attentively to what reformers like Nonnie Darwish, or Wafa Sultan are actually saying.